[Discuss] RMS talks in March
Bonnie King
misterbonnie at gmail.com
Wed Mar 18 23:44:02 UTC 2015
So, I started it (I'm sorry), and I promise it wasn't because it was
about balls.
I'm dismayed that the response to anything RMS these days has become
to joke about how gross he is. Not that I haven't been guilty of that
myself. I didn't like that the first and only response to a post
announcing his talk would be that.
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 5:36 PM, eviljoel <eviljoel at linux.com> wrote:
> Public figures are typically fair game for criticism and satire. His
> joke was mild compared to what you see on broadcast television shows
> like the Tonight Show or something. Those jokes are typically considered
> socially acceptable. But that is all beside the point...
>
> I'm going to assert that the real reason many of you are critical of
> Richard Johnson's joke is that it involved genitalia. I doubt it would
> have received the same level of criticism if Johnson commented on
> Stallman picking his nose or something.
>
> - eviljoel
>
> On 03/18/2015 03:51 PM, Rich Johnson wrote:
>> No worries Joel, nice to see you still around. Guess there is no room
>> for old schoolers & their humor anymore. I see how people support
>> Richard & then try to make a "Discussion" list censored & non-free by
>> eliminating personal comments. No problem here, just the typical "free"
>> hypocrisy that Richard Stallman has created. My goodness, imagine if
>> people these days went to the old Chicago LUG meetings.
>>
>> FYI, if this "not allow discussion which includes personal comments" is
>> a rule, you might want to add it to the website & let everyone know you
>> got to be a robot to speak on the list. SMH
>>
>> --Rich Johnson
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 3:02 PM, meg ford <megford at gnome.org
>> <mailto:megford at gnome.org>> wrote:
>>
>> It is the practice of this group to not allow discussion which
>> includes personal comments/attacks. Whether or not you are fine with
>> that on a personal level is your own business, but that is the
>> policy that Jim and I established for the LUG.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 2:51 PM, eviljoel <eviljoel at linux.com
>> <mailto:eviljoel at linux.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Tolerable conduct and behaviors or our community is a discussion
>> worth
>> having. This isn't a topic we should sweep under the rug.
>>
>> Richard Johnson's comment was at least tangentially related to
>> the free
>> software community and was on topic. I'm angered that people try
>> to tell
>> him how he can and cannot express himself when what he says
>> won't hurt
>> other people. People should not have the right to silence him
>> that way.
>> The line should be whether what you say hurts other people, not just
>> whether you like it or not.
>>
>> - eviljoel
>>
>> On 03/18/2015 02:21 PM, Drew Fustini wrote:
>> > On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 12:28 PM, eviljoel <eviljoel at linux.com
>> <mailto:eviljoel at linux.com>> wrote:
>> >> We can all certainly at least tolerate a genitalia joke on an
>> Internet
>> >> mailing list.
>> >
>> > Ideally, content on this list should relate to GNU/Linux.
>> >
>> > I suppose it my fault for replying to brian's original
>> announcement
>> > with my post-talk notes. Let us please let this thread go back to
>> > sleep.
>> >
>> > -drew
>> >
>>
>>
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