[Discuss] RMS talks in March

Thu Mar 19 02:06:02 UTC 2015

Thanks for your input everyone. I'm glad that it's not an issue of
saying balls. Meg and I do want this to be a constructive mailing list,
though. We won't set formal rules about discussion topics for the list,
but I think that most people join the mailing list to talk about
GNU/Linux and Free + Open Source related topics, and probably not other
things. So it's appropriate for us to sometimes point people in the
direction of talking about FLOSS topics, and away from other things.

RMS' talk was a good one last night. He talked off the cuff on Free
software for over two hours . . . Drew gave a good summary of some of
his points (thank you for that, Drew!). Drew left out that RMS gave his
talk barefoot, though. He must've forgot.

I say that because we have a meeting on Saturday with two great speakers
lined up, and maybe one of them will give their talk barefoot, too. You
never know. Hopefully you will show up and find out.

Jim

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015, at 06:44 PM, Bonnie King wrote:
> So, I started it (I'm sorry), and I promise it wasn't because it was
> about balls.
> 
> I'm dismayed that the response to anything RMS these days has become
> to joke about how gross he is. Not that I haven't been guilty of that
> myself. I didn't like that the first and only response to a post
> announcing his talk would be that.
> 
> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 5:36 PM, eviljoel <eviljoel at linux.com> wrote:
> > Public figures are typically fair game for criticism and satire. His
> > joke was mild compared to what you see on broadcast television shows
> > like the Tonight Show or something. Those jokes are typically considered
> > socially acceptable. But that is all beside the point...
> >
> > I'm going to assert that the real reason many of you are critical of
> > Richard Johnson's joke is that it involved genitalia. I doubt it would
> > have received the same level of criticism if Johnson commented on
> > Stallman picking his nose or something.
> >
> > - eviljoel
> >
> > On 03/18/2015 03:51 PM, Rich Johnson wrote:
> >> No worries Joel, nice to see you still around. Guess there is no room
> >> for old schoolers & their humor anymore. I see how people support
> >> Richard & then try to make a "Discussion" list censored & non-free by
> >> eliminating personal comments. No problem here, just the typical "free"
> >> hypocrisy that Richard Stallman has created. My goodness, imagine if
> >> people these days went to the old Chicago LUG meetings.
> >>
> >> FYI, if this "not allow discussion which includes personal comments" is
> >> a rule, you might want to add it to the website & let everyone know you
> >> got to be a robot to speak on the list. SMH
> >>
> >> --Rich Johnson
> >>
> >> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 3:02 PM, meg ford <megford at gnome.org
> >> <mailto:megford at gnome.org>> wrote:
> >>
> >>     It is the practice of this group to not allow discussion which
> >>     includes personal comments/attacks. Whether or not you are fine with
> >>     that on a personal level is your own business, but that is the
> >>     policy that Jim and I established for the LUG.
> >>
> >>     On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 2:51 PM, eviljoel <eviljoel at linux.com
> >>     <mailto:eviljoel at linux.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>         Tolerable conduct and behaviors or our community is a discussion
> >>         worth
> >>         having. This isn't a topic we should sweep under the rug.
> >>
> >>         Richard Johnson's comment was at least tangentially related to
> >>         the free
> >>         software community and was on topic. I'm angered that people try
> >>         to tell
> >>         him how he can and cannot express himself when what he says
> >>         won't hurt
> >>         other people. People should not have the right to silence him
> >>         that way.
> >>         The line should be whether what you say hurts other people, not just
> >>         whether you like it or not.
> >>
> >>         - eviljoel
> >>
> >>         On 03/18/2015 02:21 PM, Drew Fustini wrote:
> >>         > On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 12:28 PM, eviljoel <eviljoel at linux.com
> >>         <mailto:eviljoel at linux.com>> wrote:
> >>         >> We can all certainly at least tolerate a genitalia joke on an
> >>         Internet
> >>         >> mailing list.
> >>         >
> >>         > Ideally, content on this list should relate to GNU/Linux.
> >>         >
> >>         > I suppose it my fault for replying to brian's original
> >>         announcement
> >>         > with my post-talk notes.  Let us please let this thread go back to
> >>         > sleep.
> >>         >
> >>         > -drew
> >>         >
> >>
> >>
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> Bonnie King
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