[chiglug] systemd

[Rob Dux]

There's a running joke that systemd will reimplement the kernel among all
the other things it has already done.

I've use and am somewhat indifferent from a users standpoint. Unit files
seem to be an improvement over init scripts. It took some effort to work
with the logging rather tailing / grepping a file.

On Mon, Nov 9, 2015, 10:02 AM Rob Dux <robwdux at gmail.com> wrote:

> How about discussing the point in systemd tries to do more rather than
> less as indicated here: http://skarnet.org/software/s6/systemd.html
>
> Case in point - forces other software to hook with it in order to be
> supported. Software then is forced to become less portable. e.g. Gnome
> Shell -- OpenBSD now must write shims to support it.
> http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20140915064856
>
> What about:
>
> "The distribution model of systemd, made of lobbying and bullying, is much
> more akin to the distribution model of Microsoft Windows than the one of
> GNU/Linux."
>
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2015, 9:01 AM sten <me at sud0.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey,
>>
>> So I'm trying to put together a presentation about systemd for people who
>> have decided they have some sort of problem with systemd. I'd love for it
>> to be conversational styled - me and someone (or someones) who wants to
>> talk in front of people in favor of sysvinit or a different alternative.
>>
>> I talked to a couple folks 2 meetings ago, but I may have been overly
>> confrontational about it, and I really want to hear what objections still
>> remain.
>>
>> Drop me a note on- or off-list, let's see if we can come up with
>> something together.
>>
>> -sten
>>
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